[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 7: Final Fantasy XII- The Mafia Age

[Oreki]

You define them with their tone and content. The analysis of your post pain the picture pretty fucking clearly, townies having fun and bantering have a more at ease tone and constancy in their posting. You made a joke using previous banter from me & Drago's entrance to break the ice, and immediately switched tones rebuffing Naomi's question. It's usually scum indicative and makes you feel nervous and the immediate switch of tone makes it feel even less natural.

Oh, would you look at that? Well, Nova, my rationality tells me that you're reading too much into my post, it's no big matter. So you shouldn't worry too much. No matter how I see it, "The scummiest scum here" post was nothing more than my lame attempt of a joke. To begin with, my post tone with my question to Naomi had nothing to do with the former, tone-wise. I made my entrance and saw I saw Naomi tagged me and then asked her why she would ask me such a question.

You could call it curiosity. The post It totally doesn't indicate the tone of the other post. While I might not be aware of how do you define "forced" and "genuine" tone even I could tell that this was completely off the mask. You have ought to have known from my playstyle that I do make jokes like that and always ask a question in this tone since I am direct about what I want to ask and what I do not.

So why did you thought the post tone was conflicting with each other? If it's there some high level of perception, reason, and theory.. then there must be some other meaning which I've not gotten. Or it was simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning... No, I don't like to believe that. Yet looking at "Why would I rebuff and ask her question", I suddenly understood why you trying to look into my post too much. But no you still don't convention I and the way you trying to put an ideal image of town disturb me to hell like as if you're trying to put that image to every player mindset to let them know what Oreki is doing is scummy and not townie because no way in the hell every player gonna play the way you're trying to put your ideal image of a town. That just fucking bullshit you come up with.

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

As expected from your question, which has no basis whatsoever.
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Would her reason changed how you responded?

Obviously. Her reason based on my questions but I am pretty sure if I would have said "I have no opinion on gambit so far" she would have either ignored my post or posted something like i see, we'll see or something like that since there is no way she can reply anything else to that

 

[novaselinenever]

Oh, would you look at that? Well, Nova, my rationality tells me that you're reading too much into my post, it's no big matter. So you shouldn't worry too much. No matter how I see it, "The scummiest scum here" post was nothing more than my lame attempt of a joke. To begin with, my post tone with my question to Naomi had nothing to do with the former, tone-wise. I made my entrance and saw I saw Naomi tagged me and then asked her why she would ask me such a question.

I'm not worried lol, I'll disagree in it being no big matter. I like reading tones and I believe that entry posts are usually the juiciest of all. It's where scum is the least comfortable and analyzing them is very useful. The idea that you need a sizable amount of content from someone to generate a read is bollocks, you can generate them and thoughts from anything 'cause majority of stuff is alignment indicative one way or the other generally. It's also useful 'cause the prodding that ensues and the interactions is what generate content and can lead to progression of reads, you don't always stay at that same conclusion.

That's fair enough, I'm sure it was an attempt at a joke, I wouldn't say it was lame lol. I just see an agenda behind it, the icebreaker.

You could call it curiosity. The post It totally doesn't indicate the tone of the other post. While I might not be aware of how do you define "forced" and "genuine" tone even I could tell that this was completely off the mask. You have ought to have known from my playstyle that I do make jokes like that and always ask a question in this tone since I am direct about what I want to ask and what I do not.

Tone and behavior isn't something that is just with each post differently lol. Ok, you're not aware of how I defined forced and genuine, have you read the description of your post that I made? What would you defined that?

How is the fact that you make jokes relevant to the question here? Would you not make jokes as both alignment?

So why did you thought the post tone was conflicting with each other? If it's there some high level of perception, reason, and theory.. then there must be some other meaning which I've not gotten. Or it was simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning... No, I don't like to believe that. Yet looking at "Why would I rebuff and ask her question", I suddenly understood why you trying to look into my post too much. But no you still don't convention I and the way you trying to put an ideal image of town disturb me to hell like as if you're trying to put that image to every player mindset to let them know what Oreki is doing is scummy and not townie because no way in the hell every player gonna play the way you're trying to put your ideal image of a town. That just fucking bullshit you come up with.

They conflict with each other 'cause there is a stark contrast in them. The contrast is exactly what makes your initial post stand out. Everything paints a picture, a townie joking around and bantering has a certain energy and enthusiasm to himself which is continuous in his posting. The break-off from your initial post to coldly engaging Naomi is what made it feel more like using previous banter to break the ice.

What do you mean by "simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning" lol?

What is this exacty ideal image of town I'm trying to put? Lmao I'm playing my game. And how exactly does it disturb you? How am I trying to put that image into every player's mindset? I'm sharing my thoughts and how everything makes me feel so far. Lmao how is that bullshit?

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

Lmao how the fuck am I getting all cocky? There absolutely fucking is lol, I read into everything. Why not just answer that you had no read on Gambit? See my post about the scum mindsent I'm talking about and why those kind of rebuffs before answering question pings me.

 

[Oreki]

@novaselinenever when you said Ryu made slip were you referring to his this post

No unless this was weeb game, otherwise I have never heard of it.

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

Oh, would you look at that? Well, Nova, my rationality tells me that you're reading too much into my post, it's no big matter. So you shouldn't worry too much. No matter how I see it, "The scummiest scum here" post was nothing more than my lame attempt of a joke. To begin with, my post tone with my question to Naomi had nothing to do with the former, tone-wise. I made my entrance and saw I saw Naomi tagged me and then asked her why she would ask me such a question.

You could call it curiosity. The post It totally doesn't indicate the tone of the other post. While I might not be aware of how do you define "forced" and "genuine" tone even I could tell that this was completely off the mask. You have ought to have known from my playstyle that I do make jokes like that and always ask a question in this tone since I am direct about what I want to ask and what I do not.

So why did you thought the post tone was conflicting with each other? If it's there some high level of perception, reason, and theory.. then there must be some other meaning which I've not gotten. Or it was simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning... No, I don't like to believe that. Yet looking at "Why would I rebuff and ask her question", I suddenly understood why you trying to look into my post too much. But no you still don't convention I and the way you trying to put an ideal image of town disturb me to hell like as if you're trying to put that image to every player mindset to let them know what Oreki is doing is scummy and not townie because no way in the hell every player gonna play the way you're trying to put your ideal image of a town. That just fucking bullshit you come up with.

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

As expected from your question, which has no basis whatsoever.
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Obviously. Her reason based on my questions but I am pretty sure if I would have said "I have no opinion on gambit so far" she would have either ignored my post or posted something like i see, we'll see or something like that since there is no way she can reply anything else to that

Holly fucking shit.... ....... .........

 

[novaselinenever]

Obviously. Her reason based on my questions but I am pretty sure if I would have said "I have no opinion on gambit so far" she would have either ignored my post or posted something like i see, we'll see or something like that since there is no way she can reply anything else to that

I'm talking about your thoughts on Gambit, and answer to her question. Would they have changed had she given the reason why she asked you?

 

[novaselinenever]

@novaselinenever when you said Ryu made slip were you referring to his this post

Yep. Here's my thought on it

Not sure if this a townslip, or an elaborate play lol. Like would he actually believe that it'd fly here? Also does anyone remember being scum with Ryu in a Trad game? That'd help

Leaning towards it being the former tbh

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

lemmie go back to bed... not going to interrupt this writers club meet.

 

[Naomi]

Oh, would you look at that? Well, Nova, my rationality tells me that you're reading too much into my post, it's no big matter. So you shouldn't worry too much. No matter how I see it, "The scummiest scum here" post was nothing more than my lame attempt of a joke. To begin with, my post tone with my question to Naomi had nothing to do with the former, tone-wise. I made my entrance and saw I saw Naomi tagged me and then asked her why she would ask me such a question.

You could call it curiosity. The post It totally doesn't indicate the tone of the other post. While I might not be aware of how do you define "forced" and "genuine" tone even I could tell that this was completely off the mask. You have ought to have known from my playstyle that I do make jokes like that and always ask a question in this tone since I am direct about what I want to ask and what I do not.

So why did you thought the post tone was conflicting with each other? If it's there some high level of perception, reason, and theory.. then there must be some other meaning which I've not gotten. Or it was simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning... No, I don't like to believe that. Yet looking at "Why would I rebuff and ask her question", I suddenly understood why you trying to look into my post too much. But no you still don't convention I and the way you trying to put an ideal image of town disturb me to hell like as if you're trying to put that image to every player mindset to let them know what Oreki is doing is scummy and not townie because no way in the hell every player gonna play the way you're trying to put your ideal image of a town. That just fucking bullshit you come up with.

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

As expected from your question, which has no basis whatsoever.
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Obviously. Her reason based on my questions but I am pretty sure if I would have said "I have no opinion on gambit so far" she would have either ignored my post or posted something like i see, we'll see or something like that since there is no way she can reply anything else to that

I'm not worried lol, I'll disagree in it being no big matter. I like reading tones and I believe that entry posts are usually the juiciest of all. It's where scum is the least comfortable and analyzing them is very useful. The idea that you need a sizable amount of content from someone to generate a read is bollocks, you can generate them and thoughts from anything 'cause majority of stuff is alignment indicative one way or the other generally. It's also useful 'cause the prodding that ensues and the interactions is what generate content and can lead to progression of reads, you don't always stay at that same conclusion.

That's fair enough, I'm sure it was an attempt at a joke, I wouldn't say it was lame lol. I just see an agenda behind it, the icebreaker.

Tone and behavior isn't something that is just with each post differently lol. Ok, you're not aware of how I defined forced and genuine, have you read the description of your post that I made? What would you defined that?

How is the fact that you make jokes relevant to the question here? Would you not make jokes as both alignment?

They conflict with each other 'cause there is a stark contrast in them. The contrast is exactly what makes your initial post stand out. Everything paints a picture, a townie joking around and bantering has a certain energy and enthusiasm to himself which is continuous in his posting. The break-off from your initial post to coldly engaging Naomi is what made it feel more like using previous banter to break the ice.

What do you mean by "simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning" lol?

What is this exacty ideal image of town I'm trying to put? Lmao I'm playing my game. And how exactly does it disturb you? How am I trying to put that image into every player's mindset? I'm sharing my thoughts and how everything makes me feel so far. Lmao how is that bullshit?

Lmao how the fuck am I getting all cocky? There absolutely fucking is lol, I read into everything. Why not just answer that you had no read on Gambit? See my post about the scum mindsent I'm talking about and why those kind of rebuffs before answering question pings me.

The fuck, Is gambit writing from your account.

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double quoted, meant oreki.

 

[novaselinenever]

The fuck, Is gambit writing from your account.

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double quoted, meant oreki.

Lol does Gambit write like that?

 

[Naomi]

Lol does Gambit write like that?

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

As expected from your question, which has no basis whatsoever.

Like fuck, wtf am i seeing.
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I know he mention it in past, but seriously...thought it was joke.


Holy shit.
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W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about.

 

[novaselinenever]

Lmao yeah that was a little bit dramatic, I was laughing when responding

 

[novaselinenever]

lemmie go back to bed... not going to interrupt this writers club meet.

Join us

 

[Naomi]

Lmao yeah that was a little bit dramatic, I was laughing when responding

That sounds like Gambit, Not Oreki.

Never seen him bat a eye at people accusing him, the fuck is this bs all of sudden.

 

[novaselinenever]

Hayumi.

Talk to me about this one.

 

[Oreki]

I'm talking about your thoughts on Gambit, and answer to her question. Would they have changed had she given the reason why she asked you?

This will depend on her answer and how she would have asked. You should obviously know that.

Tone and behavior isn't something that is just with each post differently lol. Ok, you're not aware of how I defined forced and genuine, have you read the description of your post that I made? What would you defined that?

How is the fact that you make jokes relevant to the question here? Would you not make jokes as both alignment?

From your words, it was as if you some sort of special ability to deduce the truth all the time. I don't mind being questioned for such silly reasons, but the fact remains that you concluded your own conclusion out of my two posts one with being fluff. Yes, I do make jokes as scum but as the town I am even more laid back and fluff a lot contrary to my scum self who engage in discussion a lot on purpose just to make it look like... look at me I am solving the game and giving reads.

When a player has habit of joking and does a lot of fluff you can't make a conclusion for them so easily out of their early game post. I don't like that way of thinking. I guess I'm not the type to go deep in someone posts like that and start forging question after questions which hold little so value.

What is this exacty ideal image of town I'm trying to put? Lmao I'm playing my game. And how exactly does it disturb you? How am I trying to put that image into every player's mindset? I'm sharing my thoughts and how everything makes me feel so far. Lmao how is that bullshit?

You've been constantly giving reasons how the town would act in this situation, how the town would approach, how town do this do that, and whatnot. I couldn't shake off the feeling that you're saying something dangerous. Like you're using these terms as a surprise attack to force your opinion and argue to me because what all you said what town do and what town does not is putting your ideal image of a town.

Why you must ask me such a question?

Hate to break to you but this, not a cold tone, how do you even define cold tone? I was speaking in a casual town... I don't even know anymore how you perceive posts...

What do you mean by "simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning" lol?

Simply stating maybe I don't want to understand with your reasons but no I simply disklike your reasons here

Lmao how the fuck am I getting all cocky? There absolutely fucking is lol, I read into everything. Why not just answer that you had no read on Gambit? See my post about the scum mindsent I'm talking about and why those kind of rebuffs before answering question pings me.

I just answered you why I did not give my opinion on Gambit because this will do me no good and I first like to know why would she even ask me that question knowing I would not give any opinion on gambit with his one post

 

[Naomi]

Hi, the scummiest scum here
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Why you must ask me such a question?

Since when can't you give a honest reaction to current day phase.

 

[Oreki]

Since when can't you give a honest reaction to current day phase.

I didn't understand your question lol

 

[Naomi]

now it happened, I haven't seen anything off so far, nothing that I could grasp or that is off /page2



for the same reason as he created that list


day one theories? my theory is that this is a cultgame and the cultleader might have a hefty multivoter abilityset

after dozens of day ones I decided to put minimal effort and just try to get some shit rolling

Why a cult!?

Why?

Any last words?

Scum always have a day chat in Trad, why are you asking?

Lol what?

Got impression someone was giving day advice to new player, as why asked.

 

[novaselinenever]

This will depend on her answer and how she would have asked. You should obviously know that.

How exactly? Are your thoughts on Gambit linked to Naomi?

From your words, it was as if you some sort of special ability to deduce the truth all the time. I don't mind being questioned for such silly reasons, but the fact remains that you concluded your own conclusion out of my two posts one with being fluff. Yes, I do make jokes as scum but as the town I am even more laid back and fluff a lot contrary to my scum self who engage in discussion a lot on purpose just to make it look like... look at me I am solving the game and giving reads.

I do not have such an ability and never claimed to have it lol. I'm just a dude that engages people on anything that pings him and wants to generate content with it. So what if I concluded my conclusion from two posts? Is there a number of posts needed for someone to generate a read? Also you talking about conclusion like it's a foregone thing, who's to say that my read on you might not develop?

I reckon you're less laid back here which hints at you....hmmmm lolol

You've been constantly giving reasons how the town would act in this situation, how the town would approach, how town do this do that, and whatnot. I couldn't shake off the feeling that you're saying something dangerous. Like you're using these terms as a surprise attack to force your opinion and argue to me because what all you said what town do and what town does not is putting your ideal image of a town.

That's my mindset and my own rational ladder that I use to compare stuff with. It's how you generate stuff from tone and behavior 'cause they're tricky, I'm not asking anyone to play one way or another or judge people based on my own rational. I'm fleshing out raw thoughts which is how I like to play, and I think it's the best way to keep stuff engaging and to generate content. Otherwise it's just "hurr durr gut feeling" or judging people on contribution which is awful 'cause it's easy to fake for scum and some townies are disengaged or contribute in their own little weird way lol.

Lmao I'm not forcing anything, I'm fucking sharing. You can engage me on that, feel free to do it. That same thing you're having trouble with is also what I'm using to get townreads and solve the other way, it's some good shit.

Hate to break to you but this, not a cold tone, how do you even define cold tone? I was speaking in a casual town... I don't even know anymore how you perceive posts...

The answering with a question of your own instead of actually answering her question. It all goes back to the post I told you to look up about why that's usually a bad thing lol.

Simply stating maybe I don't want to understand with your reasons but no I simply disklike your reasons here

Fair enough. Do you think they're fake?

I just answered you why I did not give my opinion on Gambit because this will do me no good and I first like to know why would she even ask me that question knowing I would not give any opinion on gambit with his one post

Alright that's interesting, fair enough. Why do you think it would do you no good to have answered with your opinion?

 

[Oreki]

Yep. Here's my thought on it

No, I just wanted to say that I was also not aware that in trad we always have 24 hours scum chat... AL recently told me when I hosted my game