[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 00: True Mafia - Wolves vs. Village

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This whole post is off.. Haven't u read my first about this whole situation?

Congratulations for a quality post. Well done sire.

Eh? Ofc.. But how about the things i said?

Those who pull this jester thing are scum to my eyes...
So by virtue of reduction, we go:
Naomi
Nana
God
Joby
Wai
Oreki
Afh
gambit-chwan, I am telling you, u r barking up the wrong tree
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how's a girl to sleep like this :lazepuke:
 
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Wai is not the confirmed vig he can be the one that did the Maf kill. That's why first look at my lynch schedule
If Wai is mafia and Hatz is mafia how come Wai is throwing his mate under the buss? :weirdpeep: or both are town or one is scum and the other town. Would be very bad play if they where both mafia....
 
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At first I trusted the cop claim since people were claiming that their actions failed. But thinking about it more, hatz doesn’t make sense anymore.


Again, I never said waido was cop or talked about cop ability. Here is the thing I was asking:

Waido claimed he can only vig on certain days. Right?

Hatz claimed that he is a cop and that his action failed.

Hatz also suggested that there could be more than one cop.

So, if we follow what this implies, if there more then one cop, it implies that some can only succed on a even night while there other on an odd.

But then when we consider:
The fact that there was only 1 cop last game.
The fact that having two cops on a 13 player game
The fact that a cop claims openly.

This points to hatz being scum.
Now your post is making more sense. Still we don't know the whole story I don't believe we should jump on this. I am not saying if there is another copy that other cop should claim. But is to risky going after a cop claim.

How many protective roles can there be in a 13 players game? And role blockers? We don't get info as to what happens to us during NP. Wai could have been blocked, Hatz could have been protected, Wai could he the liar, or the other way around... Pushing to Lynch for a cop claim is not a good thing at all.
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Plot twist, there's no scum. lol. That's what Aries would do.
Hahahaha who is Aries?
 
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If Wai is mafia and Hatz is mafia how come Wai is throwing his mate under the buss? :weirdpeep: or both are town or one is scum and the other town. Would be very bad play if they where both mafia....
Did I say they're both maf smh
They're not bud that's for sure.
 
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Oreki please tell me how this could be a slip or you get the vig shot tonight...

This whole play is off



We have a cop claim and no counterclaim plus an explanation
But I see those scums still piling their votes on Hatz... One would think a town would be more delicate with these issues. We've got brazen scum here
Kibi tell me how it can't be a slip? Alongside of claim he telling there can be more than one cop... have you ever seen two cops in the game like that because I haven't

Wait.. Wtf
How does this help catch scum
You're using flawed half assed non existent logic to imply hatz is scum...
Kibi aren't you jumping on the gun to fast here? Did I vote for him? Did I stop considering his case? There can only be two reasons for him to say that someone else might claim the cop, either he thinks the game can have another cop alongside of him as multiple ToS invest roles or he was expecting someone to counterclaim him cuz his claim is not real

Do you expect counterclaim of your role when you claim a role that can only one person have in the game?
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So I am a suspect now because I lynched the jester? How about, I just failed to notice that he was too obvious too be a real scum?

So in short, out of your long circular post, you aren't sus of Nana by means of meta? You are considering all didferent types of scenario that you weren't able to bestow on Hatz when he claimed an important role? In return, you tried to fish on other cops role by asking someone lowkey to CC him and let them all out at once?
Okay let me go out of my way to tell you this, do you seriously expect that 12 players game can have two cops because hatz was implying that... and do you seriously don't want a real cop to counterclaim hatz if he's speaking lies? Make a sense out of your post before writing them

So what is the ideal number of cops associated in a role madness setup mister mafia expert?
How many cops do you expect in the game of 13 players? There can't be more than 1 cop if there's more than one cop then it should be role like odd day and even day cop, not an actual cop... he expecting his role to get counterclaim only meaning it's fake.
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I already outed myself as a vanilla townie... which is what I outed myself as last time before town killed me for being obviously scum lmao

And my whole argument for Hatz saying he was cop is that it was to force whoever the actual cop(s?) are. So you fishing for a cop still just means you are scum IMO
About that Joby, it's rolemadness game and in rolemadness, there can't be vanilla town
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I am amazed no one actually paid attention to Joby claim especially our scum hunters
 
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Okay let me go out of my way to tell you this, do you seriously expect that 12 players game can have two cops because hatz was implying that... and do you seriously don't want a real cop to counterclaim hatz if he's speaking lies? Make a sense out of your post before writing them
There's no point in arguing about the setup. Only host knows this. And yes, having 2 role cops in this setup may be feasible if there are other roles who may contradict and deter such roles. Think outside the box before saying that I don't make sense with my post.
How many cops do you expect in the game of 13 players? There can't be more than 1 cop if there's more than one cop then it should be role like odd day and even day cop, not an actual cop... he expecting his role to get counterclaim only meaning it's fake.
Why are u so certain that there may be no more than 1 cop? Why do I feel like you wanna out all the cops for the sake of reduction?
 
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Vote Lynch Oreki.

He encouraged the mislynch in the beginning.
When Host talked about some rules he changed his mind.
Then again he started repeating slip slip for no reason lol.

When you guys lynch me don't lynch waindo next. He might be a real vigi or weird jester.
 
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There's no point in arguing about the setup. Only host knows this. And yes, having 2 role cops in this setup may be feasible if there are other roles who may contradict and deter such roles. Think outside the box before saying that I don't make sense with my post.
I thinking outside of the box and going by this logic... there can't be more than one cop in the setup of 13. But the point I still haven't voted hatz because no one counterclaimed and when I asked that question to hatz it was to confirm why assumed that someone might counterclaim, was he thinking with newbie thoughts or he was expecting it.

Why are u so certain that there may be no more than 1 cop? Why do I feel like you wanna out all the cops for the sake of reduction?
Cuz I have played way many games and never seen more than 1 cop in the game of less 15 players. Plus it's gonna be unbalanced game because it will make town too strong
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Vote Lynch Oreki.

He encouraged the mislynch in the beginning.
When Host talked about some rules he changed his mind.
Then again he started repeating slip slip for no reason lol.

When you guys lynch me don't lynch waindo next. He might be a real vigi or weird jester.
It was Kibi who said about rules not me and I only said slip when you were expecting someone to counterclaim you
 
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You are just passively lynching town. That's why you didn't vote. It doesn't prove you are a town or anything.


newbie thoughts
I don't like to use the noob card but I already told joby how experienced I am with trad.

What do you mean by this:
newbie thoughts
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expecting it
Sorry
What do you mean by this*^
 
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You are just passively lynching town. That's why you didn't vote. It doesn't prove you are a town or anything.



I don't like to use the noob card but I already told joby how experienced I am with trad.

What do you mean by this:
It means, you were expecting another cop because you're not aware of traditional mafia setups if that was not the case then I don't see any point expecting someone to counterclaim you

About lynching... did I vote for you? No, because I am still playing this game and will place my vote when I have someone worthy to vote
 
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someone worthy to vote
This is trad and we don't have much time left.
I am already dead.
It's called Plural Lynch If I recall correctly.
I don't see any point expecting someone to counterclaim you
If you see no point then how you have a scum read on me.

You are just contradicting yourself.

Waindo voted me because of his actions/plan
Ryu & Joby voted me to get in the lynch train
Naomi voted me and contradicted herself too lol

All jester game I guess xd
Sad I am a cop
 
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This is trad and we don't have much time left.
I am already dead.
It's called Plural Lynch If I recall correctly.

If you see no point then how you have a scum read on me.

You are just contradicting yourself.

Waindo voted me because of his actions/plan
Ryu & Joby voted me to get in the lynch train
Naomi voted me and contradicted herself too lol

All jester game I guess xd
Sad I am a cop
You should ask these question players who are voting for you, not to me who haven't voted you yet and actually asking a question to confirm the curiosity
If someone would have needed to counterclaim you then they would by now have which means you're most likely our cop here.

I am only contradicting the theory of 2 cops not your cop claim itself
 
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If someone would have needed to counterclaim you then they would by now have which means you're most likely our cop here.
I still think 2 cops in the setup is sensible.

If you really think I am the cop here why are you letting them lynch me :toolazy:
 
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Well... Okay
You're okay with Vanilla town claim in rolemadness?
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I still think 2 cops in the setup is sensible.

If you really think I am the cop here why are you letting them lynch me :toolazy:
No, it's not... I am going by the experience here and two cops only make sense when it's even and odd night cops. Don't expect me to go out of my way to defend you just because no one counterclaimed you, its something you have to do it yourself
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Why the sudden votes on naomi?
 
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I thinking outside of the box and going by this logic... there can't be more than one cop in the setup of 13. But the point I still haven't voted hatz because no one counterclaimed and when I asked that question to hatz it was to confirm why assumed that someone might counterclaim, was he thinking with newbie thoughts or he was expecting it.


Cuz I have played way many games and never seen more than 1 cop in the game of less 15 players. Plus it's gonna be unbalanced game because it will make town too strong
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It was Kibi who said about rules not me and I only said slip when you were expecting someone to counterclaim you
You're okay with Vanilla town claim in rolemadness?
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No, it's not... I am going by the experience here and two cops only make sense when it's even and odd night cops. Don't expect me to go out of my way to defend you just because no one counterclaimed you, its something you have to do it yourself
Don't boast in front of me about the number of games you played. It is to be accounted for that rhis ain't an ordinary setup. Semi-Open games usually mask a game with an unusual setup, often featuring uncommon role interactions or multiple copies of the same role. You mentioned that this a role madness game, so why do u bitch too much on the plausibility of 2 cops? The veracity of one's claim may not be determined by a counterclaim if in case that 2 of them are valid ones. Remember that we need to be careful with our claims because there are consequences. Those consequences not only lie on the scum's night options but also on the players who wouldn't grasp the whole scenario.
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@Hatz change ur vote to naomi. If you're the cop, check oreki tonight.
 
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@Gambit save me
they are lynching a cop and don't hear a word I say
4-5 votes on me
:lazybleed:
 
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